Hallo Experten,
wenn ich im Internet rumschaue, dann finde ich bei historischen Rennfahrzeugen aus den USA häufig den Begriff "B-Production". Das trifft sowohl für Mustangs als auch für andere Fahrzeuge wie Corvetten (z.B. hier: http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showD ... geNumber=3) und so zu. Leider finde ich im Internet keine Erläuterung was denn ein B-Production-Fahrzeug wirklich ist. Gibt es auch ein A-Production-Racer? Sind die B-Fahrzeuge für Amateure gewesen - verglichen mit den Werksautos - oder sind dies von Serienautos in Rennwagen umgebaute Fahrzeuge? Oder gab es verschiedene Rennserien? Wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
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Harald
B-Production?
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Re: B-Production?
Hat etwas gedauert, mußte erstmal die Erläuterung wiederfinden, die Howard Pardee vom SAAC mal gegeben hat. Hier ist sie:
"The Sports Car Club of American put production cars in classes using criteria like engine size and car weight. They added and subtracted cars when the race results showed that they should be in a higher or lower class. For instance, 289 Cobras were in A/Production until the 427 Cobra came out and then 289s were put into B/P. The same thing happened to Corvettes. So, the car in B/P varied by the year.
Here are some of the cars that were in B/P in 1965:
Mustang GT350
Jaguar XK-E
Sunbeam Tiger
Corvette
Here are some of the cars that were in B/P in 1970:
Mustang GT350
289 Cobra
Jaguar XK-3
Sunbeam Tiger
Porsche 911S
Small Block Corvette (327)
AMX
Here are some of the cars that were in B/P in 1975:
Mustang GT350
Porsche Carrera
Small Block Corvette (350)
Jaguar
The big block GT500s were listed for A/Production but not many people tried to run them in SCCA races. There were a few '67 and '68 GT500s that did run in International competition at the Daytona 24 hours and the 12 hours of Sebring, they were in GT classes.
There were other cars approved for B/P but they may not have been run by anybody or they weren't fast enough to qualify for the ARRC (where I got the cars above).
I'm not sure of the year, but the SCCA eliminated B/P and put all the cars into a new class, GT1 which allowed larger engines (like 351Cs in GT350s) and radically flared wheel wells etc.
Of course the GT350s dominated B/P in 1965, 1966 and 1967 and were competitive for years later, but the Corvettes got bigger small block engines, 4-wheel disc brakes and continuing factory support which made it very difficult for a small, independent racer in a GT350 to be competitive.
Howard Pardee" SAAC registrar
"The Sports Car Club of American put production cars in classes using criteria like engine size and car weight. They added and subtracted cars when the race results showed that they should be in a higher or lower class. For instance, 289 Cobras were in A/Production until the 427 Cobra came out and then 289s were put into B/P. The same thing happened to Corvettes. So, the car in B/P varied by the year.
Here are some of the cars that were in B/P in 1965:
Mustang GT350
Jaguar XK-E
Sunbeam Tiger
Corvette
Here are some of the cars that were in B/P in 1970:
Mustang GT350
289 Cobra
Jaguar XK-3
Sunbeam Tiger
Porsche 911S
Small Block Corvette (327)
AMX
Here are some of the cars that were in B/P in 1975:
Mustang GT350
Porsche Carrera
Small Block Corvette (350)
Jaguar
The big block GT500s were listed for A/Production but not many people tried to run them in SCCA races. There were a few '67 and '68 GT500s that did run in International competition at the Daytona 24 hours and the 12 hours of Sebring, they were in GT classes.
There were other cars approved for B/P but they may not have been run by anybody or they weren't fast enough to qualify for the ARRC (where I got the cars above).
I'm not sure of the year, but the SCCA eliminated B/P and put all the cars into a new class, GT1 which allowed larger engines (like 351Cs in GT350s) and radically flared wheel wells etc.
Of course the GT350s dominated B/P in 1965, 1966 and 1967 and were competitive for years later, but the Corvettes got bigger small block engines, 4-wheel disc brakes and continuing factory support which made it very difficult for a small, independent racer in a GT350 to be competitive.
Howard Pardee" SAAC registrar
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Re: B-Production?
Ahaaaaaaaaa, danke für die Info! Jetzt verstehe ich den Unterschied zwischen A- und B-Production. Somit ist also B-Production keine Amateur-Rennwagenserie oder so, sondern es hat einfach mit der Leistung und dem Fahrzeuggewicht zu tun oder eben einer speziellen Einstufung durch die Rennkommisare. Man könnte vielleicht vereinfacht sagen, dass es so wie in der ehemaligen Deutschen Rennsportmeisterschaft mit der die Division I und II war, wobei die Kritierien in Deutschland aber anders waren. Somit wäre also ein B-Production-Mustang ein "vollwertiges" Rennauto:-)
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Re: B-Production?
Zwar ein bisschen älter dieser Thread, aber mein 67GT500 war wohl der einzige mit offizieller Zulassung zur B/P class. Der damalige Besitzer hatte ihn zum GT350 umgebaut um nicht in der A-Klasse fahren zu müssen.
Im vehicle log book steht er so drin:
Gruss, Juergen
Im vehicle log book steht er so drin:
Gruss, Juergen
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